SportsTalkSocial: Proposal to implement deep changes
Introduction
There seems to be a small glimmer of hope regarding community accounts.
After talking to @taskmanager, who implemented the DAO, I learned that the @sports-gov account has another custodian and in addition to that @sportstalksocial responded to my message on Discord, but after 3 exchanges of messages on the 11th of May he never responded.
If there were any doubts, it seems to me that they no longer exist.
For me, this made it very clear that this way we will never be able to improve anything in the community.
Therefore, I propose these amendments.
Proposal
This proposal proposes the following changes:
1- @sports-gov custodians @taskmanager or @patrickulrich will transfer the @sports-gov keys to @cryptosimplify
2 - @sportstalksocial custodian @patrickulrich will transfer the @sportstalksocial keys to @cryptosimplify
3 - @cryptosimplify will be share the accounts keys with @cryptoandcoffee
4 - @sports-gov will follow the @sportstalksocial for curation votes.
5 - See with @patrickulrich how we can handle the frontend code to implement the ads
6- @sports-gov HDB will be used to buy more Hive to increase account HP
7- @sports-gov SWAP.BTC will be sold and more Hive will be Power Up
8 - We will analyze the best offer to delegate some HP to generate passive income to community (ALIVE, LEO, ARCHON or BRO are some projects that will be analyzed)
9 - We will analyze projects that return yield delegating Hive Engine that accounts have and are not be used
10 - All HBD won by @sports-gov and @sportstalksocial through posts will be used to buy Hive.
How to Vote
@sports-gov will reply to this post with two comments. If you'd like to see this proposal pass, then upvote the YES comment with any % upvote.
Thank you for posting in the sportstalksocial community.
You have been upvoted for posting plagiarism-free content/images and consistently growing your SPORTS POWER.
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Waiting for the proposal vote replys on this post. They are not yet effected.
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I dont think I understand what's been said.
Is there a post on sportstalk that makes it simpler.
Why the transfer of governance and all that
Because currently we dont have any governance at all.
Have you saw anything being done to improve the community?
I sent a message to @taskmanager to see what is going on with DAO because the account it is not replying with The vote options
Let's talk on Discord: uyobong#5966
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I sent to you a friend request on Discord
I was able to get the 2 options for my proposal, but the system has yet to notify that the proposal has failed to pass.
The whole thing was, and is highly experimental, and temperamental. But I don't think I marketed it as a DAO, as it's a little too centralized at 2 points to call it that. The account owner has ultimate control, and this code was designed to allow a community owner to yield that control over to a community. The account owner can at any point decide to no longer yield control, and remove authorization. (the 1st point of centralization)
This hasn't happened yet...
What has happened is that the code hosted on my server (the other centralized point) is dated, and in need of an update. But as I've stated before, getting 51% of stake to vote on it is going to be very difficult, so for now fixing this is lower on my priority list.
So, SportsTalkSocial community will not be able to use the "DAO" since you are not able to fix this?
Oh I am certainly able, and even willing, I'm just saying it's lower down on my list of things to do
Ah ok.
We will wait.
Can you notify me When you fix the node?
Continue to gather support for your idea, I'll have it fixed before you finish gathering the required support, and if I don't finish before you have it, I'll move it up the list.
EDIT: But yeah I'll try to remember to let you know when it's working. You can be my test subject.
fixed the problem that had my proposal stuck, and found your problem.
#sportsproposals
you used #sportsproposal, edit your post, add #sportsproposals, notify me, and we should get this to work
Thank you a lot, so much for the effort.
I have already updated my post.
Now, everything it is working fine.
Thanks again for the support.
I am confused about what proposal system is this running on?
Anything here? https://tribaldex.com/tokenfunds/SPORTS:SPORTS
SPORTS is running 2 proposal systems. One that I wrote a couple years ago, and one that the hive engine team wrote.
The hive-engine one allows control of a fund of SPORTS, people can propose whatever, and then get funding in SPORTS to do that...
The one I wrote allows control of an account (sports-gov) by the community. People can propose fundamental changes to the community, propose a use of any funds in the account, control how hive power is used, ect.
The hive-engine system is much more stable, but is limited in its abilities, it can either give out SPORTS, or not... My system is a lot more unstable, but allows for a lot more options....
Anyways sports is running 2, probably the only tribe with both setup...
Need to have a look at your one if open source. Fetch me a link if you can.
At the moment it isn't. Cleaning up the code and making it available is on the list of things to do though.
Most of the stuff I write for hive, depends on other stuff I've written and is already feeding chain info (along with the different calculations it makes from that info) to a DB. Some of these "feeder programs" process chain info for several main programs like this one. The bot that calculates each accounts usershare, also calculates usershare for DHEDGE, ARCHON+ARCHONM (combined usershare), WEED, UTOPIS (unused) and BRO(FI) (unused). There's a lot of "junk" code in that bot that wouldn't be needed to only run governance for one token.
So to release something like this, I'd have to make a copy of everything, then strip down the garbage that's only used by other stuff, retest everything to make sure it functions more often than not, and then figure out how to explain how it all works.
Maybe you have an opportunity there for a "Hive-Engine token" schema... You can either rely on the HIVE chain or if you trust HE chain history, use that to rebuild any share calculation at any time (or overtime in case it's cumulative).
I guess once this has success, for SPORTs, you have a good chance of thinking it through.
Anyway... best motivations and if you are interested in running a hive-engine witness, let me know. Don't know if you have another handler there, but in case you haven't, I happy to help.
There it is only proposals to receive funds and not to governance
Got it now. Tks
Even this is a mess because no ones knows that is each one.
So there many things to do and improve
YES
Upvote here to support the proposal, any % upvote will trigger 100% GP support.
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we need to do something for sure let me know when we can vote please
I voted YES, because it's better to do this than do nothing in this situation.
On the other hand if it succeeds, I'd like to correct the route in following points a bit (after some period of time) :
I believe the cooperation should return and some part of delegation should be reestablished
If we talk about the 70+ HBD only, then OK,
What is this transfer about?
What portion of HP are we talking about? It needs to be set if we're to delegate 50% or 100%.
What are they? I used to know @brofi but is there any working right now?
I believe that after (let's say half an year) a part of these income should be set to burn sports
Thanks a lot for your comments.
Let me explain what I know and I can
This needs to be analyzed because we are delegating 5K during 3 years and @actifit.rewards it is only curating actifit posts and a lot of them with low quality.
This account never curates SportsTalkSocial community posts.
Currently, it is only 70 HBD, and it is not earning any interest and for the community it will be better to be converted to HP and used to curate posts.
The transfers to @newsportsholding it was patrick moving personnel funds out of community accounts. That is correct, since the funds not belong to community.
The other one I don't have information about it.
In my opinion, max amount is 50% because we need HP to curate quality posts on the community.
I know that LOLZ have this working to reward LOLZ token, but we need to analyze if exists other options.
That is the goal. Start to have a regular passive income that allows to buy SPORTS from market and burn it.
I don't know if we will be possible to implement this in half year or a year after start generating passive income.
I hope my answer clarify our doubts or concernings.
Voted yes. Let's hope for the best.
NO
Upvote here to STOP the proposal, any % upvote will trigger 100% GP support.
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I think, rather, that ALL sports communities should merge.
That would give us more strength for the future.
The language barrier would perhaps be a drawback, but it would be surmountable.
I spoke with the leader of the SWC community and he has the same thought as myself.
The issue is that it would take longer to implement a whole sports project.
I vote NO as a way of getting my ideas across, never because I disagree with coming up with a solution for the SPORTS token.
That being the case, I leave the merger proposal on the table....
Thank you in advance for your attention.
Best regards.
c.c. @manuelramos, @eddiespino, @theycallmedan
Greetings to all, I think that uniting all the sports communities in one place sounds like a great idea, but I do not see it feasible, because SWC has a mission and objective already set, Full Deportes has a long way to go, I think we should be careful about the actions we take on behalf of the community we represent.
The idea sounds good, but I don't see it as feasible, scalable or decentralised.
Yep. NO in this case will mean most likely eventually nothing getting done. Aka, no way to go ahead and try new things. There is always some risk in going on ahead and trying new things, but in small steps, things can shape and become better eventually. Just takes time and continuous effort.
As @forykw in the future a lot of things can be done but for that it is necessary to have persons taking care of community and using there time to improve things.
Currently, this is not happening and this proposal is to change the current community status.
You are free to vote what you think that is better but voting NO only will make the community continue as it is without impprovements or changes.
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Sports to the moon if only we can get a betting site and a burn sink for sportstalk it will be awesome
In the future, we can do a lot of things.
This is just the starting point.
Anything is better than what is currently being done with Sports (none).
If I were you, I would allocate some small % of the post rewards for HBD savings to keep that for further developmemt.
After we be able to have a real team using time to implement things, we will discuss all the available options, including your suggestion.
However, to do something we need to pass the proposal and I don't know if currently people is at least active to vote and reach the 51%
50% of whole community?
51% of supply
It's very technical for me. I have 7M or so. I have voted for Proposal. Hope it will help community and bring the change that is required. Appreciate for taking the lead and thinking about future.
Thank you for your support.
Lets see if the community Came to vote and approve it