Proposal To Effectively Eliminate Ad-Free Viewing Staking Reward

account = "sports-gov"

nodelist = NodeList()
nodelist.update_nodes()
nodes = nodelist.get_nodes(hive=True)
hive = Hive(node=nodes)


def transfer_token(to, amount, symbol, memo, account):
    he_wallet = Wallet(account, blockchain_instance=hive)
    transfer_tx = he_wallet.transfer(to, amount, symbol, memo)
    time.sleep(1)
    c = Comment(loaded_post, steem_instance=hive)
    c.reply(str(transfer_tx), "stake_tx", account)


transfer_token("patrickulrich", 100000, "SPORTS", "Refund for ad-free removal proposal", account)

!end

When we introduced advertising for the first time we deployed a feature to encourage staking SPORTS for the benefit of having an ad-free experience when viewing from SportsTalkSocial.com. This was set at a reasonable amount of stake for the time at 500,000 SPORTS. A year an a half later and that's not nearly the same metrics when compared to how many SPORTS are available which is limiting the number of ads we are actively displaying.

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The Proposal

Normally I wouldn't do a proposal for updating the website but since this was a promised feature in the past I wanted to have the community's approval for this change before adjusting anything by myself. I would like to effectively end the ad-free staking reward by changing the required stake, that was initially set at 500,000, to 50 billion SPORTS. This would in turn lead to everyone using SportsTalkSocial.com receiving ads that help support the community.

I've split this change out from other site updates as a single change PR on GitHub. You can review that change here.

The Costs

There is no cost for this. I am only including script to return the 100,000 SPORTS proposal fee.

Benefits to SPORTS

This would increase the number of ads available to be displayed through SportsTalkSocial.com and in turn help support the community's growth through our advertising efforts.

How to Vote

@sports-gov will reply to this post with two comments. If you'd like to see this proposal pass then upvote the YES comment with any % upvote.

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If you would not like to see that these changes implemented then please upvote the NO comment with any % upvote.

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YES

Upvote here to support the proposal, any % upvote will trigger 100% GP support.
All rewards from this comment go to the governance fund

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I don't really understand this but it sounds like it's going to be for the best, YES

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Thank you for the support! To better explain, currently if you have 500,000 SPORTS staked to your account you shouldn't see advertising when viewing SportsTalkSocial.com. If this passes then I will change that to 50 billion SPORTS required for no ads so that everyone has ads shown when looking at the site. This should in turn increase the speed at which we deliver ads and earn payouts from the advertising program to further grow the community.

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NO

Upvote here to STOP the proposal, any % upvote will trigger 100% GP support.
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I've vote my YES. It's interesting to see more updates coming in each time from you.

Though I was expecting the sports burn thing too.

Bravo.

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Thank you for your support!

I felt some of the criticisms presented for the burn were valid in that sending people here didn't have an immediate value for the community. For example at the time we hadn't switched the ads over so having them viewing on SportsTalkSocial.com would have helped with Alexa scoring but it wouldn't necessarily reward the community for using it in the same way the ads would by delivering funds that can be used to do things. I'm not expecting to fix all of the condenser requests, though it sounds like Hive Engine has plans to revisit condenser development, but if I can help make sure that when we propose an offsite penalty that using the onsite actually has solid returns to the community then I'll at least feel that I'm doing my best to cover those concerns to the best of my abilities.

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I knew heard about this before in one of your streams and I am glad you are pushing this proposal. I support it and I think some of the largest stakeholders also support this. As I don't have 500k SPORTS staked yet, I have yet to notice the difference so it will likely stay the same for me.

Posted Using LeoFinance Beta

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Yeah I've wanted to move forward with something to expand the 500k limit for a while. It's just not aged well with our inflation levels compared to a year and a half ago. Thank you for supporting the proposal!

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You will get there! How much do you have right now?

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I have some liquid SPORTS I haven't staked yet that I received in the morning but currently I have 155k staked. Maybe I set my goal of 200k by the end of the month but it looks like I will probably be there in another week or two.

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Absolutely. More ads and more ad revenue. It's exactly what we need right now and if stakeholders want to see the tribe grow they should want to help.

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Thank you for the support @niallon11! That's my thought as well. I want to get as many ads shown as possible to as many people as possible so we can start building even more things in the future.

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I already have 500k sports staked but I see ads on the site. How is that?

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It's based on active stake so if it's delegated away it will count toward the other account. That might be why you would still see them on @amr008 but I couldn't explain why your .sports account would see them if it is.

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Well yeah I can still see it from my .sports account too . I refreshed and checked too . I will vote for Yes but just wanted to clarify.

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Hmm I'll let @eonwarped know of the report. I'm not sure why they'd be showing in that instance but maybe he'll be able to tell us.

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Okay sure but it won't change my decision in anyway . I have already voted for Yes.

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Good that you report this if there is some problems with the code.

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Funny I see the ads from my mobile but not from desktop.
Anyway I'll be happy to see some ads to help the tribe :)

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You're the second person to mention this now. I'll report it to @eonwarped who's worked on a lot of the code for the Hive Engine sites and let him know of the reports. Regardless thank you for the support on this proposal!

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I am against this proposal, but I will abstain from voting and let the majority decide. If you want to raise the stake to 20 to 30 million I would vote yes, as this would give an incentive to up your stake not to see ads....
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I can certainly understand the objection which is why I did not want to make any changes unilaterally in this instance. I thank you for voicing your concerns with the change and I shared them to a degree. I certainly didn't want to limit anyone's interest in staking into our community.

The reason I ended up not asking for an inflation adjusted change was mainly due to my belief that the ad-free reward wasn't driving staking interest for the token for the most part. I hadn't really seen posts about users breaking that barrier and enjoying the perks of their new rankings. It seems that some users have even been still shown ads despite being past the 500,000 for some reason and I would assume didn't even realize there was this benefit to be had.

If this proposal were to not pass I would gladly revisit with a PR for a differing amount that we can look at. I just figured by eliminating it for all it would reduce disagreements on where the bar was dropped.

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I have 600k sports and had indeed not noticed the absence of the ads. I do indeed not see an ad at the moment. I just didn’t realize why that was the case.

I will happily look at some ads, as that will increase the value of my stake in the long run.

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If you raised it to 20 million, 98% of the tribe would still get ads. Being ad free was not the reason I acquired 60 million tokens but I do see it as a perk not to see the ads.

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It could be used as a incentive to stake more sports if you don't want to see ads. But I just think that we right now need the revenue more than the incentives, but we can always change it later on. But I respect your decision

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This comment is notification of a new proposal on SPORTS. If you've already voted thank you for taking the time to look over the proposal above. There's still about 48 hours left for voting on the proposal to effectively eliminate the ad-free staking reward so you still have more time to get your vote in. To vote simply vote on this comment for yes or this comment for no.

As it stands there is currently only 21.35% of GP voting on this proposal. For a proposal to be considered valid it must have 51% of Governance Power (GP) voting either yes or no otherwise it will not meet quorum.

RankAccountGovernance PowerStakeVote
1@uyobong.sports / @uyobong5.494859146368518% GP70172955.062No Vote
2@edkarnie4.783036304924854% GP61082510.533No Vote
3@mk-sports-token / @mmmmkkkk3114.389500662673532% GP56056802.284No Vote
4@razackpulo.sport4.370269331407038% GP55811205.571Yes
5@cryptoandsports / @cryptoandcoffee3.852215604525184% GP49195319.717No Vote
6@airforce3.4060829234626064% GP43497912.787No Vote
7@dalzphoto / @dalz3.287873990217318% GP41988307.183No Vote
8@jphamer13.156265748971826% GP40307583.628No Vote
9@rezoanulv.sports2.6966901161833907% GP34438501.388Yes
10@toni.sports2.4128942697005678% GP30814242.303Yes
11@erikahfit2.267392435895192% GP28956088.459Yes
12@scholaris.sports / @scholaris2.236575415230813% GP28562534.894No Vote
13@amr008.sports1.8916467042639347% GP24157569.036Yes
14@bozz.sports / @bozz1.6693602693320708% GP21318825.477No Vote
15@patrickulrich1.602882655459958% GP20469862.749Yes
16@ctpsb1.3457285574662181% GP17185836.265No Vote
17@dfacademy-sports / @dfacademy1.2927105859271337% GP16508761.997No Vote
18@cruisin1.2906613418379898% GP16482591.806No Vote
19@fitcoin1.2385095340367986% GP15816579.017No Vote
20@yousaf-sports / @yousafharoonkhan0.9745538797979951% GP12445692.199No Vote
21@bcm.sport / @bcm0.9296228765612943% GP11871893.82No Vote
22@botefarm.sport0.8851781178116833% GP11304305.102Yes
23@roger51200.8650421063046155% GP11047155.029No Vote
24@splines0.83951690673641% GP10721181.49Yes
25@steem.girl0.7616239279999991% GP9726437.066No Vote
26@majorleague0.7330520087895559% GP9361554.919No Vote
27@brocfml0.7189580114868352% GP9181565.33No Vote
28@zahidsun0.7085146538673464% GP9048196.804Yes
29@pele230.6914767592845424% GP8830611.716No Vote
30@adhammer0.6010077502346465% GP7675263.137Yes
31@hivemachine0.6003495066719361% GP7666856.935No Vote
32@cocukgelisimi0.5897840911864138% GP7531929.65No Vote
33@ph1102.sports / @ph11020.5754475036018646% GP7348842.024No Vote
34@xak0.5640055130102595% GP7202720.3Yes
35@abh12345.sports0.5622452414723671% GP7180240.478Yes
36@ptaku0.5519711324824423% GP7049033.368No Vote
37@flipstar0.5342934775693406% GP6823278.121No Vote
38@hykss.sports0.5006537743079044% GP6393677.048Yes
39@alokkumar.sports / @alokkumar1210.49298308196389823% GP6295717.276No Vote
40@darewealth0.4590167321267963% GP5861944.712No Vote
41@pjansen0.42549541558086074% GP5433855.515No Vote
42@automaton0.4201207941952559% GP5365218.075Yes
43@fun.sports0.41804934662623644% GP5338764.331No Vote
44@blanchy.sports / @blanchy0.4048476962116027% GP5170170.597No Vote
45@zainalbakri0.36891170085981756% GP4711244.368No Vote
46@devann.sports / @devann0.3609241471071363% GP4609238.068No Vote
47@fural0.3603488174537074% GP4601890.731No Vote
48@ekushya0.3351794813631496% GP4280461.802No Vote
49@jersteemit.sport0.33172651790196234% GP4236365.194Yes
50@irman0.3278654337409279% GP4187056.617No Vote
51@salimbur0.32565310671965714% GP4158803.75No Vote
52@lightsplasher0.32363047199217704% GP4132973.378No Vote
53@espandor0.2919435953754579% GP3728311.182No Vote
54@coiotes0.2755480254391781% GP3518929.001No Vote
55@h770.26926297132848254% GP3438664.738No Vote
56@pouchon0.2643096632306447% GP3375407.745No Vote
57@talesfrmthecrypt0.2610606769208346% GP3333916.059No Vote
58@flaxz0.2595919186807616% GP3315159.053No Vote
59@flipstar.sports0.2518682557604329% GP3216522.812No Vote
60@indosports0.2505012767880824% GP3199065.594No Vote
61@costanza.sports / @costanza0.23944501219682543% GP3057869.844No Vote
62@actifit-peter / @peter20170.23657486148164872% GP3021216.137No Vote
63@hivesportsnews0.2344744528314947% GP2994392.541No Vote
64@tbnfl4sun0.23319383841344676% GP2978038.255No Vote
65@grandiosae0.23270315531328192% GP2971771.91No Vote
66@beatsbema0.22784154798746628% GP2909685.996No Vote
67@ctime0.22233505404803539% GP2839364.457No Vote
68@cabinet24.sports / @cabinet240.21855457193380926% GP2791085.221No Vote
69@cloudblade0.21506948850908564% GP2746578.42No Vote
70@coffeelovers0.2114266450581874% GP2700056.92No Vote
71@solairitas0.21098696810900075% GP2694441.957No Vote
72@shahzad010.20811720273033774% GP2657793.171No Vote
73@djsl820.20308862606275335% GP2593574.949No Vote
74@sports.guy550.19675568827188225% GP2512699.18No Vote
75@moyse0.19664008708286015% GP2511222.877No Vote
76@toufiq7770.1953917602783131% GP2495280.925No Vote
77@rosatravels0.19492009108025263% GP2489257.4No Vote
78@sportfrei0.1937100648928413% GP2473804.572No Vote
79@ireneblessing0.19094758241467166% GP2438525.859No Vote
80@kolawole0.18812790882517616% GP2402516.778No Vote
81@arsenal4life0.18680447561953126% GP2385615.668No Vote
82@nurdinnakaturi0.18417796156940455% GP2352073.361No Vote
83@limka0.184015148004806% GP2349994.125No Vote
84@tolustx0.18182586545389182% GP2322035.551No Vote
85@jgb0.17548673236647724% GP2241080.664No Vote
86@opochtli0.17394500974528843% GP2221391.855No Vote
87@philnewton0.16789316519224595% GP2144105.831No Vote
88@yohann0.16475911808509622% GP2104081.994No Vote
89@fit.zone0.1604265779491931% GP2048752.615No Vote
90@michealb0.1574567941364152% GP2010826.528No Vote
91@broncnutz0.15712503310141362% GP2006589.722No Vote
92@arbi.sportstalk / @bahagia-arbi0.15692071830097165% GP2003980.488No Vote
93@naha0.15510455276602889% GP1980786.863No Vote
94@freddio.sport / @freddio0.15065148162381192% GP1923918.224No Vote
95@elfman20180.14818658918697078% GP1892439.931No Vote
96@fajarsdq0.1475153704096715% GP1883868.027No Vote
97@samic.sports / @samic0.1464939888016527% GP1870824.314No Vote
98@celioeguga0.14510316524342093% GP1853062.585No Vote
99@simaroy0.14368940707606578% GP1835007.966No Vote
100@apostlevincent0.14354213570463614% GP1833127.214No Vote

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Oh I missed this, I'll head right there and cast mine.

And Oops seems you got my stake details wrong, it's been increased to 4.2M ;)

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Thank you for the vote!

Congrats on the increase! That's a good jump in stake. It should reflect in the final tally's GP though. This just look at whatever the ARCHON system had as of their last check which could have been before you made the jump.

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I just did that. Sad, that many ain't voting for this proposal.

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Thank you for the support @uyobong! I think it's another instance where we need better notification systems. After making this post yesterday it looks like we've already crossed over. I think it's tough for most people to know when a decision is even needed.

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That was a crucial discovery. Have you started working on that?
Meanwhile, since the proposal has passed, are we expecting a proposal on how to spend the ads revenue soon?

I suggest a buy-back for SPORTS.

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I have voted already but don't why it's taken as No Vote. I support it.

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Hmm I'm sorry @alokkumar121. I could have overlooked your name. I pulled the chart above from the data in the Discord bot so there's always a chance I miss things when building it. Did you vote on the yes or no comment to cast your vote?

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Yes I voted on the comment. Please check and confirm if my voting is counted.

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It doesn't look like your vote went through. It doesn't show up on Hive blocks for the 'yes' comment and no one has voted for 'no' yet.

Try voting again on the comment below (or the no one if you prefer to vote no) again to see if it takes it this time:

https://www.sportstalksocial.com/hive-101690/@sports-gov/re-proposal-to-effectively-eliminate-ad-free-viewing-staking-reward-20210303t191524z#@sports-gov/re-proposal-to-effectively-eliminate-ad-free-viewing-staking-reward-20210303t191524z

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Done and here is the snapshot. Please check.. I did it through my sports account.

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Done and here is the snapshot. Please check.. I did it through my sports account.

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Done and here is the snapshot. Please check.. I did it through my sports account.

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Yes I voted on the comment. Please check and confirm if my voting is counted.

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Voted with both even though my coffee has very little sports these days.

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I think this proposal is worth all the support it can ever get with its prospect to improving the lots of SPORTS through ads buy back

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It won't necessarily mean an ad buy back. The funds are deposited to @sports-gov's swap.btc address and it will be up to the stakeholders on how they are spent via the proposal system.

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