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You may want ask @tydynrain who is a moderator of the #YouAreAlive tribe and is a very active Hive user, regarding the ALIVE bot not working. π€π !INDEED !DIY
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I think the moderator / creator of #alive is @flaxz, isn't it like that? !INDEED !WEIRD !LOL
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The creator of the #YouAreAlive community is indeed flaxz, though he doesn't work alone in managing the community. π !WEIRD !PIZZA !DIY
But can't he organize than that someone else repairs the issues?
Or has there been any communication? I keep on using #alive anyway, we'll see when it comes back !wine !BBH
Did !WEED got repaired by the way?
I can't answer the first question for you, but you can ask other #YouAreAlive team members such as @tydynrain. π€―π€ There hasn't been any communication with him on Hive since 9 months ago. π !LUV
The !WEED bot did not break, but rather simply turned off due to "spam". π§π€π !PIZZA
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Thanks much for the mention! I didn't know that the WEED bot was turned off! Doh! How was it spamming? π π π β¨ π€
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I don't know exactly, but you can look at the creator's comment and the conversation in general. π€―π€
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OK, thanks much, I'll take a look now. π π π β¨ π€
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Maybe the !WEED token tipping being used too often (where most of the time it isn't successful) is considered as "spam". π€π€―π
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Well, considering that it could only be used once per day, if it responded in any way after the first call I can see how it might be considered to be spammer-enabling. π π π β¨ π€
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The !WEED command used to be able to be successfully called once per hour (per 60 minutes to be more precise), not necessarily once per day. π
The WEED "tipping" (curation) bot doesn't respond to calls where the previous call from the same Hive account is less than 60 minutes before. π€
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Ah, true, I haven't used it in so long that I forgot the periodicity. I wonder how it's going to be redone.
Yep, I do remember that. I didn't start using the tip call until just before the bot was turned off. π π π β¨ π€
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!HOPE that one of the improvements isn't stopping the comments for every !WEED token tipping command (whether successful or not), because you !love those detailed notifications. π€π
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Hahaha...yes, I am rather partial to detailed notifications, it's true! I can't help it that I like more information rather than less! π π π β¨ π€
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Maybe it would be okay for you if those detailed notifications are from token transfers (maybe the WEED token from the !WEED bot) instead of comments. π€π€
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I'd choose detailed notifications for both, actually! Give me all the info, all time! π π π β¨ π€
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Maybe you won't mind having all the detailed info you need from memos from token transfers, not necessarily from comments which can "clutter" the comments section (unless everyone in the comments section either !loves tipping tokens or at least doesn't mind them). π€π
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Well, I'm not horribly opposed to that idea, but it would require me to change my focus to check, which I don't like to do when I'm focused on getting through my overflowing notifications. π π π β¨ π€
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Looks like "autocorrect" changed "on" to "one" in a flash. ππ
Anyway, the poor !PIZZA bot has crashed again since 8 hours ago. π€―π
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Yep, indeedy, it's a sneaky, fast bugger!
Why does that not surprise me? π π π β¨ π€
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The PIZZA bot yet again stopped working yet again since 2 hours ago. π€―
Good thing I made it a habit to try to tip at least two tokens per comment (except when I am trying to tip !BEER). π
It certainly seems to be very in and out lately.
Yep, backup tips can be very useful! I'm most fond of them! π π π β¨ π€
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I checked the !PIZZA bot again and it still hasn't worked for 2 hours again. π€π€―
I think that a good combination of token tipping commands is at least one that is almost guaranteed to work, and at least one that doesn't work most of the time. π€π
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It's so curious that various bots, like our usually-dependable !PIZZA bot, work well for long stretches of time, then out of the blue, start having issues, or even stop altogether.
Yep, that's a good tipping strategy to follow. When bots become very iffy, I tend to just stop using them for a while, to see if things improve. π π π β¨ π€
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I saw the !PIZZA bot work about 15 minutes ago. π€ Hope it works for me this time! π
Token tipping bots for the ENGAGE, CTP, PGM, COFFEE, and some others would likely benefit from @borniet's "touch", though hope that their respective owners would allow such thing to happen! π€π€
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The !PIZZA bot seems pretty in and out lately in terms of successfully fulfilling tip calls. May it improve soon!
Yep, that's likely true. The main issue with them is that, as you said, the bot owners need to not only be available, but also wanting help with their bots, which is not always the case. π π π β¨ π€
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The PIZZA bot apparently fulfills some valid !PIZZA token tipping commands but not others. π€π€―
I don't think that "wanting help" is necessary, for as long as the owners of the inactive token tipping bots would simply allow (without being required to do anything else) @borniet's offer to "touch" and revive those bots. π€π
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Hehe...so it's acting like the BEER bot at the moment then!
Indeed, of course, and that's what I mean, like for example the SLOTHBUZZ tipping bot, which has not worked for quite a long time now. I contacted the fellow who runs it, and he was so busy in his life that he wasn't even aware that it was broken. He's still deciding what if anything he still wants to do with the bot. He said he'll contact @borniet if he wants to get it up and running again. π π π β¨ π€
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In the case of the ENGAGE tipping token, the maximum number of that token has already been issued, such that no "repair" on its tipping bot will fix the problem regarding the inability to tip more of the token (unless the ENGAGE bot's Hive account has a way of acquiring more of the token, either by being sold or gifted the token). π€π€―π
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Oh, that's interesting, I was not aware that the reason for the ENGAGE bot no longer working was a paucity of more tokens. Tipping tokens certainly should have a very large supply! π π π β¨ π€
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I was thinking of the owner of the ENGAGE project creating another #HiveEngine token with a similar name (such as ENGAGEX similar to what happened to WINE becoming WINEX), then continuing the token tipping project from there. π€π€
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That would be a cool idea, and a way to bring new life to a dead tipping bot! I dig it! π π π β¨ π€
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The ENGAGE token tipping bot was shut down not because of problems with its code, but that it no longer has tokens to tip. π€ Creating another similar token (such as ENGAGEX) however (and creating an ENGAGE:ENGAGEX token pair liquidity much like WINE:WINEX) would have continued the project with minimal interruptions. π
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Yep, I got that. I'd be game for an ENGAGE:ENGAGEX pool! Sounds great to me! π π π β¨ π€
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There isn't even an ENGAGEX (or any token as a replacement for ENGAGE yet), so creating a token pair for liquidity isn't to be thought about yet. π€―π
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Oh, I know, but it would be a cool idea in any case! π π π β¨ π€
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Every 1 WINEX is worth about 3.5 WINE tokens on their liquidity pair . π€π€
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Yep, indeedy, I know, which is why I needed a good chunk of WINEX for the pool! π π π β¨ π€
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Do you mean that you need only WINEX tokens (and not WINE) for the WINE:WINEX liquidity pair? π€π€―π€
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No, I need both, but I receive sufficient WINE from various diesel/liquidity pools to add to the pool with my WINEX. π π π β¨ π€
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Looks like the WINE token, which apparently no longer has practical purpose other than to be swapped to WINEX, still gets rewarded in (a lot of) token liquidity pools. π€π€―π
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Yep, that's true, it does, and that's exactly why I don't need to buy any for the pool. π π π β¨ π€
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However, according to #HiveEngineExplorer, the WINE tokens you get are too few (roughly 1 WINE per week). π€π€―π€
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That's why it takes me a while to get through my unstaked WINEX...lol! π π π β¨ π€
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Hope that you get more !WINEX faster! π€
I am currently at Tier 3 on WINEX tipping, where I can tip a total of 0.6 WINEX (and get tipped back 0.6 WINEX) per day. π€ If I reach Tier 4, I can tip (and get tipped back) a total of 1 WINEX per day, which if I tip all to you everyday, you will earn WINEX about 66% faster. π€
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Hahaha...well, I didn't have it on my list of priorities. How much do you need for level-2 tipping? That would certainly make things go a bit faster! π π π β¨ π€
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I think you mean "Tier 4" on the
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Well, I intentionally wrote level-2 tipping, but I did actually mean tier-2 tipping.
Oh, OK, that's helpful to keep in mind. Thanks much! π π π β¨ π€
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The Tier 2 tipping for the !WINEX token (which allows you to tip and get tipped back 0.1 WINEX on the first tip and 0.2 WINEX on the second tip for the day) requires 75 staked WINEX tokens. π€
You just need about 30 more (staked) WINEX to reach Tier 2. ππ
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OK, cool, 75 is not bad at all. I should reach that point in not too long.
Yep, indeed, and that's very cool! π π π β¨ π€
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If I tip you all the WINEX that I can tip you per day (which is 0.6 WINEX from the first to the last tip on a given day), I will still need 50 days to tip you a total of 30 WINEX so that you can reach Tier 2. π€π€―π
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Well, that will indeed take a bit of time, in truth it's not really that long, and I'm sure that it will go quite quickly! π π π β¨ π€
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While you say that getting to Tier 2 for !WINEX tipping isn't that long right now, getting to Tier 3 from Tier 2 will require an additional 150 staked WINEX tokens, for which I will need 250 days tipping you WINEX 3 times a day. π€π€―π
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But the !WEED bot was going to come back, just not giving that much upvotes or less possibility to call the bot or something like that...? No news about WHEN it would turn back? !wine !DIY
Maybe it would curate with a (much) bigger percentage once a day, and/or not reply with a comment for every !WEED bot call (whether successful or otherwise). π€π€ !LOLZ
Once a day would be fine with me and anything would be better than nothing !LOLZ !wine
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Looks like you mean a once-a-day use of the !WEED command won't be a disadvantage for you because you won't be able to use it 60 minutes apart per day anyway. π€π€―π !DIY !LUV !PIZZA
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That's right !INDEED !LOL !wine
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I noticed that I accidentally used more than 3 bot commands on my previous comment, but my !LUV token tipping command (such that the LUV and HBIT bots don't want more than 3 bot commands on any given comment) still worked. ππ !INDEED !wine
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Strange how a program / bit could make this kind of "mistakes" !wine !LUV !HUG
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Updating the database (the LUV/HBIT in this case) would take time, and with new bots appearing on Hive as well as existing bots accepting new alternative commands, there might come a time that the database will need to be updated everyday. π€π€―π€ !INDEED !WEIRD !DIY
I have the impression that there are indeed appearing more bots (while the existing ones don't seem to get repaired, like !WEED) and that there are less people finding their way to Hive. I !HOPE the time that this is going to change is not far away any more because as soon as the BTC is going to drop, Hive is going to drop to an unacceptable level. I mean that it isn't going to be worth (almost) anyone's time any more for the poor benefits that there are to reap. !wine
I think that when the price of HIVE significantly drops further, then there would still be some people who would remain on the platform because of its other features such as practically free publishing of posts (that costs only a bit of Resource Credits) and censorship-resistance. π€π§ββοΈπ€ !LOLZ !DIY
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"Free publishing of posts"???.... It would be !WEIRD if ew had to pay for it... Ok, maybe for publicity, but I don't think a lot of people would choose Hive as a publicity channel. Not enough exposure... !wine
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So people buy these tokens, make the effort to write and publish and actually pay for that? !WEIRD !WEED !wine
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However, that platform offers several features not on Hive, such as direct hosting of non-text data (such as images, videos, and other types of files), and removal of content that isn't desired by every node on that network (meaning content that isn't supposed to be on the Internet will gradually become inaccessible on that platform over time as more nodes decide not to host it). π€π !DIY
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He's been so incommunicado that even getting the tipping bot up and running again has been problematic. My project partner, @borniet, could easily get it working again if Erik provided the needed information. I'm the comment moderator for the @aliveandthriving posts, I and the handful of other Alive admins do what we can without him around. As far as I know, the only thing that he does do is to provide the post headers each week. Nope, WEED is still broken too, unfortunately, or rather it was turned off. π π π β¨ π€
And can't he give it over to you guys when he can't or doesn't want to do it himself any more?
It's better that #alive would be in other (good) hands than that the work gets done only partially, I think...
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Yes, I very much agree with that. We still have a small team of very dedicated people, so it could work I believe. It's so curious that he hasn't chosen to do that. We could get the Alive Tribe fully functional again pretty quickly. π π π β¨ π€
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And hasn't he been telling you guys anything about his motives? !LUV !LOLZ
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As far as I know he hasn't communicated much of anything since January, sadly. We've just been keeping things going the best that we can. π π π β¨ π€
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Of course, those are only round figures.
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Well good luck with that in this case.... !INDEED !LOLZ
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He wanted to take up residence.
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Thanks much, we'll just keep doing our best! π π π β¨ π€
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I said oh god not that as well!
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!INDEED, that's very much our !HOPE as well! π π π β¨ π€
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