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I am a poker player.
and then told my friend that he should Fold because I was in front and there was less than 1 in 4 chance he would hit his flush on the river.
Straight up, this is bad etiquette. I get every game is different, some more professional than others. So take my opinion for whatever you want.
But the rule is, you don't talk about the hand at play. You don't try and influence people in the hand.....ESPECIALLY if you're not in the hand.
Granted you were, but guaranteed, your opinion swayed him to fold, which in the end (unknown to you and him) helped you win the hand.
Moral of the story....just keep your mouth shut :)
Play your hand, bet accordingly, and hope luck is on your side.
......also for your friend....NEVER flip your cards over, or fold one of them. Wait until the dealer tells you what to do. SO MANY MISTAKES I've seen from people who think the hand is ALL IN....when there are still people with chips to play. Just be patient :)
Thanks for sharing your opinion.
I disagree with the rule you've stated there. I've seen plenty of top flight games where there is cross-talk between players while the game is in play and decisions are being deliberated. I agree that if you are not in the hand you should be quiet, but if you're in the hand I only consider it bad etiquette if the other player(s) doesn't want to talk.
In this instance I did ask "Can I talk?" at some point post-flop and it was agreed that it was OK. It's a more social pub game so that is pretty normal for there to be table banter amongst active players in the hands here.
The main reason I feel bad about it is because the Spade turned up on the River. If it didn't I would have felt justified that my advice was good.
I understand your point and agree on this aspect (as in "heads up", aka, 1:1). ESPECIALLY if you asked (which you didn't mention in the og post...)...
If that is the case, all parties are in agreement, then no issues obviously.
The rule I mentioned, and again, I prefaced:
Is for a proper game, whether the stakes are high or for peanuts.
For example....I have JQ, you have KQ, on the turn you have me beat with a pair of Kings, let's say, but another player says, "lots of outs there for a straight or flush..." It makes you think. I might have gone all in on a bluff and wanted you to fold, and after that comment you may be more likely to do so. On the other hand, I may hit the river, and annihilate you. The way I play MY hand (or yours), should not be dictated by another player, is my point.
Let the game play. Unless of course, you've all agreed to talk.
My 2 cents.