With great power comes great stupidity
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This is in relation to sportstalk but the principles apply to all tribes
Over the past few days been hearing about how people are staking becoming whales.
How they have a responsibility to the platform
How they will upvote literally anything and spread the wealth
All great views and great thought
HOWEVER
I dont think people understand basic economics and how systems work
In order for this token to have any kind of value people need to be buying it else it aint worth shit
By giving out massive votes to people in your comments such as 'nice' 'great' with zero power, zero investment and for that 'great' contribution they are receiving a few thousand tokens and selling them at the cheapest possible price is not helping anyone
Least you can do is check the persons account see if they have something staked or have bought some or anything to justify giving out votes.
I am not saying we should not help smaller acounts as i am one myself - i dont claim to be even small im a nothing account. But you should do this responsibly as that is everyone's duty.
This is a platform where people have invested time and money its not a street corner where people hang about asking for hand outs
If we carry on the way this is going and the price declining day by day by the time anyone gets to power down wont be worth even doing.
13 weeks is a long time to power down so just consider the drop in price within days never mind weeks
Now to the one social justice warrior that says im not ever powering down im in it for life. Good for you as you sir are a moron
This platform could be great and people need to help each other develop it.
I know hardly anyone is going to read this as people dont really give a shit they just comment on stuff like 'i have shit loads of power' so they can comment and get a vote. So i can literally say anything like dog shit, ball bags, fuk sports in the ass, see told you
Thank you for the one person that did actually read though much appreciated
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Yes we need to be sensible about what we upvote and all these new tribes need to work on bringing in more people and even other forms of revenue. If these things are not done I think we are flogging a dead horse.
Totally agree. Agree had an idea for a betting thing in a previous post but didn't get much feedback. Let's be honest majority here for the pump. How would betting not go with sports the whole industry is based on that. But it is what it is let's just go along with it and see where it takes us
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Betting. That's a thing I love. Let me go check it out.
Everyone does except for people on a sports talk tribe lol I will get on to it and shout you once I get going thank you
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I think I saw somewhere that sportstalk powerdown is actually over 9 months. The game theory being played out at the moment is interesting, but those in it for the long term will rise to the top. I have been transparent for a while that I am selling half of my earnings and staking the other half. That won't change any time soon, My goal is to grow across a number of tribes and spread investments out.
Don't sweat the short term, go long.
P.S. I read your post.
100% agree I have said the same selling around half at the price I want not cheap and doing the same for stakes in most the tribes now. My point is at this rate there won't be a long term as no one has incentive to buy once I hit my target of staked power I'm done so will you so we need more people. Just an idea. Think of how many pro athletes just get my low league footballer rugby etc I personally know 3 pro boxers that work full time don't you think they would post here if they could make money? I know they would but do you think the developers think like that they have created a token and they will keep the money oh yeah don't forget the bot they will be releasing anytime soon where you can send some sports for a steem vote yay lol
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yeah sir your thought have point.
Thanks for share.
Thank you for reading
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People rush to accumulate tokens on the new tribes and you right that is important for quality comments over quantity!
Absolutely people are just having power tips it happens. Look at it in real term with around a $100-$200 you would be the biggest guy X2 on here not really that impressive is it lol
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Yup ! Quality 💙
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Thank you
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I always say fuck the ball bags of sports in the ass...
Lol glad you read to the end lol next time I'm gonna write 'if you leave a comment with less than 10 words your a retard' bet I get at least 3 lol
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Engagement is engagement. Good to see someone on this platform has a sense of humor.
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Thanks laughter is the best medicine unless you got diabetes then probably insulin. Read the comment just posted by the dude if you want a laugh.
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I beat type 2 diabetes by having a brain tumor removed...Science!
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I guess you have to edit now and say: “to the TWO people who read this post.”
Lol yay I got 2 thank you for reading much apreciated
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I don't have time even reading all post I'm upvoting. And you telling me to check their wallets. I can't keep up checking mine and staking all the airdrops.
Some of us have jobs, families, and friends. And life to live.
Do you want an upvote?
How much you deserve?
I won't check your wallet. You took me too much time already.
I hope you'll power them up.
'I don't have time even reading all post I'm upvoting' your actually writing that as a point lol you carry on and I don't need a vote thank you very much for reading. Much apreciated
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I'm still a bit overwhelmed with all the tribes and tokens and will eventually figure out the best plan for me and hedges to try and play my part in assuring the future of the token. I love sports but don't post a ton about it but would think that popping in the subreddits with diehard fans might be a way to get eyeballs on this tribe. I do like @steem.leo because people are starting to post articles about the tribes that help me learn all the technical shit and that's important for me. The other that I like but don't think it as broad appeal is @reggaesteem because I'm very comfortable posting about the subject. I think the tribes will work themselves out and the members will need to find ways of promoting to the outside world. But you are right about great power and stupidity. These will evolve like any other market economy.
Agree. It's not just about writing post you play just as equal role by curating but thats the skill bit upvoting quality there it gets highlighted. But that will be hard unless the people with power create quality as the self voting plays a huge part. Have a look at mot mediaofficials they payout after 3 days everyone else is 7 think that could be huge tribe on that basis alone. The overall platform is slick and the guys behind it seems clued up. Sportstalk talk should offer free power to pro sports athletes that are not at the top amateur athletes as majority struggle. That would bring in there followers. But what we will get is a miner and voting bot. It's a money making project for the creator nothing more
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never heard of mot mediaofficials. I cant keep up lol
So many lol but looks like a good one
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Awww man! This is exactly the kinda crap I was afraid would happen... Even back 2 years ago when I started out as a tiny redfish. Would it be worth building up my SP and reputation if in this volitile world everything could come to an abrupt change like this? Though I still enjoy blogging, so I'll just keep it up, I guess. The platform is good enough though, it could still come back around... We'll see.
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It's still a baby we can definitely change its future. It's just interesting to me that almost everyone agrees but all seem to have low to no power which totally justifies my point as the 'whales' on here won't comment or the creator's lol says it all really and it's them that can change the flow not any of the ones in the comment's. I have invested at the beginning so im already in the green only reason I'm saying it coz I actually think it could be a long term awesome platform if done right
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Great points in your post about long term value in a platform. Honestly there are some people who care and we discuss this a lot. It's bad enough self upvoting your own one liner posts never mind then going on to self upvote comments to such a huge degree as your full vote. Your not the only one keeping an eye on such accounts rest assured.
I am quite open about selling around half my token and staking the other half and I upvote comments as well as my own without any thought as everyone else does and I don't want to fall way behind everyone else. I honestly don't even think there is any problem with that as you are allowed to so make the most of it unless things change I only see this as well as a lot of tokens only going one way 👇👇👇
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ball bags....... full of ???? hehehehe
Glad you read it all thank you
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in part you're right, unfortunately in this world there are those who want to take free tokens and then sell everything, even for a few satoshi ... but it's difficult to control all accounts. I believe, however, that those who have a lot of power know well how to manage their VP.
Yes true. You could spend around $100 and buy tokens and be the biggest account on sportstalk so it's not a huge achievement. The fact that people are posting about how much power they have shows you the ego
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You make a very good point ! The only way to increase value here is to support those that contribute value to the platform.
Absolutely and create a use case for the token like I suggested a betting account, so people have to buy the token
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I'm with you on this!
Betting account would surely bring in huge investors because betting itself is more like an alternative form of investment.
If this idea of betting stuff works. Sportstalk users will surely be willing to buy the token just to stake on few bets!. I'm an addicted gambler myself, and i would definitely do anything to chip in profits on the weekend games.
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This is the response I was expecting overall. In normal life I hardly know anyone that is really into sport that doesn't at least bet a tiny bit if not massive. I will get on to it and try simplifying it and give you a shout out. I suppose when a few do it others will follow I hope anyway lol
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its very interesting post that you shared and that is true the influence tokens are here for the real influence i hope people will understand that and use that for the betterment of the website which is all about sports and take that sportsmanship to a next level with this token.
Its just a start of a beautiful journey many up's and down's we will see but how this community will handle it will be worth to look out for :) one thing is for sure that
"Together we can"
Thank you. Unfortunately we are all individuals and have out own thoughts and views. We all have a great opportunity and should try our best to make it succeed
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Exactly why I hold a majority and only release a very limited amount and only upvote the quality content.
But I have plans for my own here it seems like every community that has come out so far really lacks basic business sense in terms of generating income lol
Absolutely agree. Just coz you spend a couple of hundred dollars if that creating a tribe doesn't make a tribe you have to set income steams to make it viable for people to invest. If you think about doing a tribe I'm in and can through some ideas your way. So by all means give it a go and if your looking for help I'm all good. If this is done the right way could be massive as i believe most of these will disappear
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I don't determine upvotes by the person's wallet. I determine them by if the content is their original work and is decently written. Even if I don't always agree. It's how small accounts get a start. If they lack the will to grow, that is their problem.
That's a noble way of thinking and in an ideal world is fine but if your voting for someone who constantly posts and sells no staking how is that going to be beneficial to the token economics. It just doesn't it's basic supply and demand it just doesn't work long term. Long term is what we should be thinking about unless we just want a quick pump and dump then that's cool
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well since I actually curate as in reading before voting .. the odds of me voting regularly for someone who is regularly selling are fairly slim. So my little vote occasionally showing up is not going to matter.
I do autovote a few Steemians. They are all committed to the platform and I regularly read their content. They get the autovote so I don't miss supporting their work.
The biggest problem with Steem's price at this point in time is it's reflecting the rest of the markets, especially the alt coins. The selling that is having any effect is coming from the larger accounts while they are busy pointing at the smaller accounts and calling them the bad guys. Some of them need to remember while they are pointing at someone, there are four fingers pointing back.
I could easily create half decent material nothing exceptional and get 3000 coins four times a day. If you read some comments people are saying we don't have time to read we just vote and that's the people that have actually responded majority will do the same. So if I dump 10000 a day. Eventually we will run out of buyers. The big accounts will buy to a certain amount I have a rough figure of hiw much I want to stake so will you so then what we all start selling who's gonna buy them has anyone done any advertising, promotion that has to be down to the founders of the platform. As they sold essentially free tokens and have all the money. But what do you think they will offer us? 1 a bot to vote and use some coins 2 a miner that's it they have no other desires as they have already made a shit load of money from essentially 100 eng investment lol
As far as steem is concerned that's a dead dog on the side of the road. The founders are already setting up new projects to compete with it. All crypto were up last month steem was dropping coz people sell there steem nobody is really buying in. Think about how much money would have to be pumped in to get it to $1 simply a he'll of a lot. By who? Have you ever seen an advertising campaign anywhere ever lol
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With that line, any credibility just went straight out the window. Unless you can put your actions where your claims are and generate the 3,000 x 4 coins daily for the next week you are nothing but a bullshitter who is making up crap. No real ideas to post on eh?
At the current price of Steem you need to get about $810 payouts on each of your 4 posts, this single one has almost $3 .. better to get cracking. And just in case you weren't clear and you meant the 3,000 to be the total for the day ... that will mean you need about 203 each.
Let me know when you have accomplished your claim.
I meant 3000 sportstalk tokens but guess you missed the whole premise of the post never mind
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Truly you are right about that also. There are some people also which have alternate accounts which they use to vote on
That is true but it's not wrong to do that as there is no rules against it. So if you find a exploit and use it that's not the persons fault that the fault of the system in my opinion. Then people talk about it being ethical but who is to determine what's right and what's wrong that's don't to individuals
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This is a expected behaviour actually so I guess people have to learn the hard way. I do my curation manually. Take some time to actually read the posts and try to vote the best possible content. A lot of tribes will fail. The game consists in finding the one that actually "thrives" cheers!
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Totally agree and the point of you me anyone giving a vote is for appreciation of someone's work or effort. Read a comment earlier someone put about not having the time to read lol sums it all up and majority will do the same at least he is open about it lol
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I have been careful to both purchase and stake these new tokens before interacting, posting and curating. You make a good point, it's not handouts, it's social media.. requiring actual social interactions.
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Absolutely. To just stake is or just sell I personally feel is wrong you have to have a balance personally. This is the first post I'm getting interaction on which is awesome. Steemit to me is unsocial network from personal experience but these tribes have made the interaction much more. Some will do it for greed of votes and some will do it for actual interaction either way is cool with me as long as people are talking and sharing that's what the whole eco system should be based around. Thank you much apreciated
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These comments are cracking me up!
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Exactly my thoughts. I have always believed people need to upvote those who deem it fit enough to invest and bought tokens better than "the hunters" who are just on the tribe to earn and do not see it worthy of their investments.
Agree. I understand some people may not be able to buy appreciated but if I vote for you 3 times and all three times at payout you sell them then why am I bothering at least invest something to show me your commitment I don't think that's asking too much is it?
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I totally agree. That is a decent thing to do.
You are quite right. But there are those who cannot afford to invest. There are also those who can't publish a lot of content and make a profit. In some cases we have to help them. Our goal is to keep sports coin constantly up to date and gain value.
True I agree. If someone doesn't want to post they can easily curate which is also an important factor in the development of the platform
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