Anyfuckenthing else
If I didn't have to work I'd not work; I said that to someone a few days ago and believe in it down to my core. There's many more important things to do than work and because I value my life, respect it, I believe wholeheartedly that I'd rather be doing those things. The person I was speaking to disagreed and said he'd get bored if he didn't work.
I didn't say what I was thinking at the time but I'll tell you; I was thinking how sad it was that a person couldn't muster up enough things in their life (other than work) to get passionate about and that their job had became their life. I mean, fucken hell folks, seriously?
I love my job because I'm passionate about it, good at it, work with legit people, get paid incredibly well, have some fun and for many other reasons as well.
But if I could spend my days off-roading, hiking, camping, travelling, fucking, shooting and hunting, reading and writing, kayaking, gardening, hanging with good friends and good food, cuddling with my girl, doing DIY, helping my friends, delving deeper into my passion to help military veterans, spending time with my family, people-watching, watching shows, learning new skills, studying history, working on personal and continual improvement of myself, sharing my knowledge and skills with others and about a gazillion other things...well, fuck work, I'd rather be doing those things.
We're all different and if that chap chooses not to engage fully with his life then so be it. We're the same though, he and I (and you) in that someday we'll be dead and once that happens...well, it's lights out, no more life...That's motivational for me, death I mean, because it makes me want to live my life the best I can which means doing a job I enjoy (but not making it my life) and having passion for living my best life each moment and living passionately and with vigour.
It's lamentable but I have to work and those other things have to happen in between working and sleeping...or is it work that happens in between sleeping and those other things?
Work, or do anyfuckenthing else?
I'll choose the latter; it just makes sense considering how many interests and passions I have. But work is my reality for the moment and so I work towards finding a symbiotic relationship between anyfuckenthing else and my work and have focused on doing a job that I'm passionate about; I guess what's critically important for me is that I don't shirk my responsibilities to either as that, in my mind, is wasteful of life.
What's your deal? Do you love work so much that you're happy to exchange an engaged and fulfilled life for it? Is a fulfilled life defined by your job? Would you rather be doing anyfuckenthing else than work like me and if so what are those things and why? Feel free to comment, or just proceed with your life and go do anyfuckenthing else rather than hang around here.
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Always the latter man, I would drive around the Europes, living the life and loving the life. The rest of the world too. I have even heard there is a land deep down at the end of the world, would call in there too! :O)
The Europes are just begging to be penetrated right? I've done so many times and will again...bloody work gets in the way though!
You come down under man, I'll make sure you never want to leave!
I'd rather be doing anything else for sure, but my wife would expect at least a little bit of it to be something productive, otherwise it might not be worth it! I should be able to retire when I am 50 and get my pension, but I don't think it will be worth it since my wife will still be working and all those fun things I would rather be doing usually cost money!
One can be productive doing what one is passionate about...productivity isn't th sole domain of work.
I hope you get to ditch work, I can't wait to do that myself!
I loved my job as restaurateur. But I always had outside interests, such as gardening, modern dance, reading and music. I have always needed time on a stage or in a garden! If I had only my job, I would have hated my life, my job especially.
I haven't had to work (much - I am still a landlord) for fifteen years now, and I do not have enough time for the things I love. Blogging takes up too much of that time actually, and I feel I must let go of that some so that I have more time with my dog, my garden, my music, my friends. I feel terribly sorry for someone who only has their job in their life. That sounds like slavery to me.
I get it, I like my job too, very much, but would leave it in a shot if I didn't have to go there - There is just so much more to life than having to go to a job even if it's a job I like doing. If I wasn't working (at a job) I'd still do things and keep busy, so many things to do, but it would all be a choice whereas at the moment I have to go to work to sustain and grow my position financially like most people. That doesn't stop me from engaging with my life.
I don't believe in the 50/50 work/life balance, being 50% at work or at play doesn't work for me...I prefer the 100/100 method - When I'm at work I'm 100% present. When I'm not I'm 100% not. It's worked nicely.
Lastly, yep it's slavery indeed...a position governments and those who drive consumerism want us to be in. #unplugfromthematrix
I've been discussing this of late with a number of people. I think the ideal, and this is to balance a need for money, a desire to relax, do things, travel, but still have the mental stimulation and social aspects of work is to work for about 8 months a year and take about 4 months off. Unfortunately this isn't how job work in my industry, unless you sign short-term contracts and then you lose your security. There are plenty of jobs that are 3-4 days a week but they are just that 3 days every week, annoying. Ideally you find two other people who want to do the same as you, and you share two jobs between you - that would work.
Balance is something many don't find although it's something that is so within one's control; it's a choice thing. I think consumerism has a lot to do with it, the fear of missing out and the subsequent credit debt people get themselves into. I blame the marketers and corporations of course, but a lot of the blame goes to the individual who chooses not to say no to something they can't afford or don't really need.
I have a nice balance of work at the moment, I chose that. This wasn't an easy choice if all the little elements were looked at and weighed and measured however I asked myself, how would I feel if I make this change and the answer was, significantly better, which led me to the ultimate decision.
Life is too short to fill up with the desire and pursuit of want-items, I'm more about experiences. Sure, I have to pay for them so have to work, but working at a job I enjoy and that supports life rather than is life seems a nice balance.
Me too (potty mouth)....LOLOLOL !
I would have NO trouble figuring out things to spend my time on if I didn't work. None. Whatsoever !
Loads of things to do, even if that's making up new swear word combinations!
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I'm just starting to think about what kind of life I want to build, and it's so refreshing to hear someone talk about living fully outside of work.
There’s so much I want to experience and learn, like new hobbies, spending time with friends and family, and just figuring out who I am. I think it's super important to find a balance between what we have to do (like school or work) and what we want to do, so we don’t lose sight of all the other amazing things life has to offer.
I think people get so beholden to the material aspects of life that they feel like they have to keep working to attain them; I think it's the experiences that count the most and that people should be focused on doing what's required to have them more often. I understand that sometimes extenuating circumstances means work has to take priority but, like you say, one must apply balance and come to the understanding that life really is fleeting so needs to be lived well.
I completely agree with you—there's so much more to life than just work. Prioritizing what truly matters is key!
Knowing what truly matters and focusing on it is one of the essential elements of life. ✅
You would work, you'd do other forms like shooting, hunting etc more leisure work than work
Yep, but to me that's not work, it's enjoyment; make no mistake, I like my job but it's not a passion, I do it to fuel the passions I have elsewhere.
Work can be positive and enjoyable. I just haven't found it. 😕
You and many others I think.
Nice story. All the best to you.
Yeah.
Hi G, how sad not to have a life beyond work. There are people who live like this and maybe they don't even notice it... we also have to consider that in the world people live in different realities. However, I agree with you that we have to manage things in harmony, and try not to take work into family spaces or personal enjoyment.
It's sad indeed and I agree that many in this spiral don't notice that they are and even make excuses for it...excuses I feel are not acceptable.
I agree there's different realities, extenuating circumstances lice economic factors...however at the end of the day it's pretty much the same for all...we have a life, must sustain it meaning earn money and life will end. What we do in the middle is what matters.
Take you for instance...the fact you're in a tough position economically because of political factors and other things...but the joy you exude from biking comes through. Take me for instance, I find happiness and joy in many things, simple things, and yet have to work as hard to sustain my life as anyone else even in an affluent country. So, I guess what I mean is that we have a choice and finding joy, happiness and contentment doesn't always cost money.
That's right. I could even tell you that the best moments often don't cost money. They only depend on how much we want to live them. 😉
I'm going to sleep, I have a crucial day tomorrow. Have a great day ahead.
Sleep then, just make sure you wake up because not waking up means...well, you know.
😅 Well, some things are out of our hands. I give myself in faith to the Universe. I will be happy when I open my eyes and see Chanel.
Let me know if they don't open.
Yes, that's for sure. I'm going to Australia first and I'm going to pull your feet while you sleep (you must be a hairy-footed man) LOL. 🤣
Yeah, feet like a Hobbit.
Oh yeah. I definitely have enough fun stuff to do every waking minute of my life. So I make sure that life is my priority. I spend every minute possible outside in Nature. Hiking, camping, kayaking, snorkeling, swimming, mowing the grass, walking the dog, if I have to have “work” meetings I try to do them from my iPhone while I’m outside walking. So I have a good job that lets me work this way.
I like your style and can tell you're someone who values your moments knowing they'll come to an end eventually. What you do before that happens will define your life whether you use it well or badly (time); I think you're one who uses it wisely.
Amen. This one life we have is a true gift from the Universe ( God etc)
It’s better to enjoy every single minute of it.
From the morning sunrise to the glorious sun set … and every hour in-between.
Great snaps...I'd rather be watching scenery like this that working...seems like a no-brainer.
Life cannot be considered by jobs Rather, it matters whether people are happy or not. In all areas of life we should feel full filled and satisfied.
Would you say you're happy with your life overall? I mean, I know we all have things we're probably not happy about but generally, would you say you're happy with the balance you have?
Happy is he who can be satisfied with little and I am happy .
I have always said: "I work to live, I don't live to work."
When someone tells me after the end of working hours, "My whole day has passed," I reply, "My day is just beginning."
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it's clear from this that I would be able to manage easily when I didn't have to work (since I don't have grandparents to leave me an inheritance, the only way would be to win the lottery😀).
I would do everything I do now, every day after work or on weekends 🙂
I believe it's important to work oneself into a position to not have to work and have the time to engage in one's passions, hobbies and interests. Some are fortunate to with the lottery or have 'old money' or inheritances...I have none of that so I have had to work my whole life and continue to work. Having said that, I have also done so many things outside of work and have focused on not letting my work define who I am or what my life happens to be. Maybe you could say the same.
It's just that my experiences at work and with the people I met at those jobs were valuable for the final building of integrity and attitude towards work in my life.
Fair call.
I'm assuming the person you were talking to were thinking about different layers of the scenario. If they didn't work, then they won't have money coming in, so the things they can do will be limited. If money is not a problem and one can stop working, and they still think that way, then they might have something wrong in the head. Almost everyone I know wants to stop working so they can do the things they love, and I'm in the same boat. The only way I can think of that not happening is if they made their passion their work. Maybe acting, or painting, or whatever it is that they love doing already.
It seems like sound reasoning, let's hope everyone who wants it, finds it.
We can't just keep working without resting it is good to work at the same time there are more important things to be done order thank working.
Because no one can't finish work we meet it here on earth and we shall all leave it behind.
Just ensure you balance your work with your life to archive something worthwhile at the end.
@galenkp thanks for sharing.
Seems logical.
It can be boring for those who have few interests in life. I quit my job at 28 years old, I had a job with travel to different cities, trade, I worked for myself. And when I started investing in stocks 20 years ago, I quit my job. This morning I am walking to my garden; for me, working in the garden is an interesting outdoor activity. I don’t yet know what I’ll do after lunch, there are a lot of interesting things in this world.
You're one of the lucky ones although luck is often just a word that defines *hard work, effort, good decisions, persistence and discipline and other such things. Anyway, good for you quitting your job and spending your life as you choose.
I don’t love work so much that I’d be willing to trade a fulfilling life for it. There are countless things I’d rather be doing almost every minute I’m at work. I often hear this from people I meet, especially in my profession: 'I'm a teacher.' Too many people define themselves by their jobs.
I agree that too many people do that, I can't fathom why either, I guess other than that they simply don't have the zest for life or are too lazy to live it to their best advantage. Of course, many probably feel they are, but I think that's delusional.
One positive thing about my mental issues is that I can make as much art as I want. One psychologist once said the same thing - if I would not have that illness I would not be able to make art(or as much art as I do now). I would have more money if I would have a normal job. But I think that I would be less fulfilled in that case. So I think that I would continue making art and being here on Hive even if I would be millionaire and would not have to worry about money.
We all need to make the best of the situations, skills and limitations, we have and if one is doing that I think one could say they're living as best they can. Well done.
To to be fair, I experience this and I think it's easier to say 'do more' than done for a lot of people. I'd argue the vast majority, for two main reasons:
One is obviously the cost of living. Here in particular is the worst in the world with average housing costing anywhere between 35 and 45x the median annual income.
To even dare considering taking on a hobby or going away to relax for an afternoon is borderline criminal as you're essentially condemning your future to poverty and homelessness. When you tie in the strong family support culture, too, it doesn't even matter if you personally have enough to live comfortably doing anyfuckingthingelse, you won't because you want to accrue as much as possible for your children, brothers, parents, uncles and beyond who will increasingly depend on your wealth and success.
Second, for example in my case, I live in Shanghai. A megacity of 30-odd million people.
It's a vast expanse of concrete which connects only to yet more concrete as the surrounding cities and towns are indistinguishably concrete for hundreds if not thousands of miles.
There are a few spots of green here and there but it's not always that easy to simply 'get up and go hiking' or 'spend some time in the woods'. I don't think there even exists a woods or forest in the entire country that doesn't need a ticket to enter, surrounded by CCTV.
Everything else is just kind of the usual city distractions: Cafes, cinemas, sterile parks 'keep off the grass' style, riverside walkways 'no dogs', malls.
So I think most people simply aren't born or raised into even understanding the very concept of doing anything else. From childhood to retirement, the image of simply watching the world go by while reading a classic novel is something people only see in movies which, due to the work culture, almost everybody skips through boring bits, watches 2x speed, or simply watches short 1-3 minute summaries.
It's no wonder so many people simply have no hobbies at all, have no interests in music or history or art. There's no time for it, and being interested in stuff doesn't generate desperately needed cash.
It's a good point indeed. I don't live in a place such as that and the Australian lifestyle is, and has been, completely different which I suppose is where I'm coming from considering I was born and raised, and live, here.
It's quite sad though I think, the scenarios you mention, if people are in those situations - I'm glad I'm not. I'll never go to Shanghai, no desire to, and cities of 30 million plus are not my thing...but I can certainly understand the situations you suggest.
You ain't missing much lol. We've been trying to leave to the UK for a long time but... we just need that Shanghai money, cause we ain't gonna be getting it in the UK (but we will be more likely to pursue even an inkling of the life you describe here if we're lucky)
Yeah, I recall you saying you'd like our and back the UK, I hope it happens.
I can't even imagine what 30 million people would be like...or not having wide open spaces. I've travelled around the world and obviously to massive cities but big sky country is what I need and want.
Anyway, I hope you make it out...hell, if you've got skills Australia might have you. My ancestors were sent out here from the UK as convicts in the early 1800's, you won't have to come in chains, Qantas will bring you. Lol.
Hahaha, for sure it's tempting, as a 15-year long teacher I'm pretty sure there's some demand there and a better time zone for the wife to stay in touch with family. But I have cats which I think renders the whole thing functionally impossible - but maybe once they've peacefully faded away!
Loads of teaching jobs here, or so I'm told. The cost of living is high but a couple both with jobs can have a reasonable life.
Fully with you mate. We only work so we can get paid so we can give our money to other people. It’s literally slavery but we don’t seem to see it that way because we think we’re getting something out of our efforts.
I’d much rather put all my efforts into finishing renovations here but as it is we need money for that which means working which means time away from what we WANT to do.
It seems like a deluded system we’ve had forced upon us by people a long time before we were born.
I know we have more than people in the past and people see that as a good thing, progress, but I'm not so sure and wonder if people who had less were in fact better off.
Growing up as a kid in 1970's Australia (a rural town) I had little but I think my upbringing was better, more of an adventure for a young lad. No phone, devices, video games fancy shit...just an imagination, trees, wide open spaces, the creek, tadpoles, my bike, sports, other kids to play with, a sand pit...that sort of thing. Anyway, I think people are growing up with the wrong ethos, the wrong things in mind to chase and work for and that leads to job slavery I suppose...exactly what the corporations and governments want. This sort of thing is habit forming.
I was a townie but surrounded by rural. I spent most of my childhood riding bikes, swimming in pools and rivers, and playing. At the same time we had latest tech and that’s what led me into IT so I had the best of both worlds.
I think blaming tech is the wrong way to go. I think society in general has changed so much that it’s hard for kids to be kids without someone trying to do bad things to the kids. It’s easier to use tech to “get out” than it is to actually get out and do things.
Sure, back when we were young bad people existed but they were few and far between. But we never discussed this sort of thing, it got swept under the rug as the town’s dirty little secret.
Now though, people have gone from bad to worse and no one trusts anyone.
Tech gets to be the scapegoat but the dirty little secret is society has collapsed inside itself and so we get lovely little trinkets put in front of us to distract us from that fact.
We then get addicted to the trinkets because dealing with the problem is too big for us. This then leads to all sorts of problems such as slavery to the monetary system to pay for the trinkets that we’re told will make us happy when deep down we all know the system is broken and no one’s trying to fix it.
THAT’S the circle of life.
Well said.
Can you believe that's what I was saying out loud to myself? I was in a moment of rest and I said to myself how great it would be if I didn't have to work hahaha there are so many amazing things to do!!!! Some of them are the ones you mentioned but others: travel, ride horses, spend more time at the sea, take courses, learn new things, paint more, finish what I still need to learn about some subjects I'm passionate about to help others in certain matters. Or just relax and admire nature.... too many things. Life is wonderful and enjoying the simple things in life fills my soul!
There's always better things to do than be a slave to one's work and if one can avoid work-slavery my advice is to go do those other things.
Totally agree! But I do know people who say they couldn't do without work, otherwise they get bored. I don't know the word boredom.
Let those unimaginative people go to work then, more adventure for those who have imaginations and passions.
🤣 More fun for us!
I like several of your words, but I want to say that the human being is so dissatisfied that he is never complete, perhaps because I have not had a well-paid job like the one you say you have (but you are lucky) but nevertheless it is what you have but what You don't want to anymore, does it cover your 24 hours a day? Have you not been able to gather enough to do the things you really want to do? For everything we need to do or want to do more than desire and motivation, money is needed, and if you have it, what do you expect? What you want to do reads great and comforting, you convey in your words that you need it 😉.
Life is full of twists and turns and sometimes a person takes the right one, sometimes the wrong; I think what matters is that a person keeps moving forward using the lessons they've learned from the steps they took previously.
I noticed this is a common thought/response which I disagreed. Am more aligned with your thinking - I think there are many other stuff that I could be doing instead. Spending more time with loved ones, getting more exercise and sun, doing more writing on Hive or going on more travels, just to name a few.
Maybe it's because people lack imagination or possibly fear doing something out of their comfort zone; I'm not sure. All I know is that many people say it and I believe there to be a better way forward. Seems you agree.
Hehe I think sometimes people just never think hard enough. There's bound to be something to do aside from working. You are right about the comfort zone.
I am right there with you bro.
No, Do not look over your shoulder. The ticket to Australia is way outta my current budget. You know what I meant.
I never understood the bored concept. I wish I could be bored. I just don't have it in me. Go go go... That is all I know.
When I think of a hammock, I have to look at a foto like this to remember what it looks like. I have not lain in this hammock for months.
I think many people become trapped in unimaginative thoughts and that leads to a loop of eat, work sleep, repeat. They are so caught up that they can't see, or forget, that there's more to it. Of course, chasing material things doesn't help.. they think it's what they need but it's often not. Still, each to their own I guess.
I think at that point, I'd just start shedding tears....
I'm trying my best as a student right now so that I'll be perfectly happy and capable of living financially without a job.
And even if I must get one, one that wouldn't be a full throttle 9-5...
Life's just too good to spend it all on work...
I've worked all my life, worked hard too, but along the way have found balance... without it the work would seem like slavery.
I don't love work...at least not this type I'm doing right now but it does pay the bills, that's the only 'love' I have for it.
I would rather be somewhere in the Bahamas having a heart pounding adventure across the Islands.
Fuck work....
Work funds lifestyle...the problem is when work becomes lifestyle.
I read you and I'm thinking .... did I work for the government for almost 20 years of my life with a fierce passion only to be paid a shit salary that couldn't even support a pair of shoes and I thought I was fine?
Today I've been working like an animal for 8 years and I understand that I didn't try hard enough, but I recognize that I need to find more space and time to do things that I would love to do, to learn, to dabble but without work obligations...for example weaving in frames, growing bonsai, learning techniques to work with acrylics...so many things but that undoubtedly need resources.
On the other hand I love my formal work and I love that people come to consult me, that I am taken seriously, that they count on me, that they discuss work...I really like it, but I don't take work home as I used to, nor is the commitment the same, because in the end I am being undervalued by my employer and my time is money.
And I'm at that stage of life where I think it's more important to spend my time on things that really give me money to live without being a slave to it, and give me the freedom to decide how I want to live without so many hardships.... and maybe that's why I'm not a slave to it and I'm not a millionaire either...😂..
To be honest, that type of analysis is quite far from my reality...and although we live in the same sphere, and we are quite different, we do agree on the same logic of thought.
Yep, shit salaries are quite prevalent I think.
It's good to like one's work which makes it easier to turn up every day...I like my job too, but I don't live for it and would leave in a heartbeat if I didn't have to work to sustain my lifestyle.
If I could have made a living from my formal work we would be very similar people, I would like to think so, because I admire his solid, pragmatic and well structured lifestyle as the Q1 on the Gold Coast, Australia.
Does man live as he thinks, or think how he lives?
If I had known that life was all about working like a beast I would have gone to the countryside to live off a cow, today I would have hundreds of them and a trademark of producing very sophisticated and delicious cheeses.... is that the brain doesn't stop Galen, there will always be desires and dreams to realise, it's not about wanting more, it's about needing time to put into practice the other things that make us happy.
You can also just invest in the Australian stock market and live off it, that would be great.
Do it @galenkp, be happy, in the end you are from your perspective absolutely right, I just ramble, and remember I am locked in a village.
Its hard, the fact we all would want to live that ideal life but then the financial obligation that comes with it is mad, you need money and to get it you need to work for it, i feel it would make more sense if you are passionate about your job, that way it makes you feel fulfilled doing what you love rather than feel luke a slave to money, that way you kinda doing both things simultaneously..
We also agree.
There is no way to free ourselves from money in order to have a more relaxed life: financial freedom they call it, my friend.
Have a good week and good health.
Thanks for commenting.
You too dear
Brainwashed into falling into line doing a 9 to 5 from young, pay the piper who calls the tune.
Ideally buy a van and tour, educational, interesting more outdoors. Here we are, chasing square circles!
Yep, I agree...governments want to keep working and corporations want us working, and spending. It's like one of those hamster wheels.
Turn back the wheels of time, what I know now would have been useful then, water under the bridge 🙃 hindsight is 50/50!
Yep, it's easy to look back and see it all more clearly. I wonder what people will see when they look back on the present times in years to come?
When humans traded their ability to think for themselves and became.... Fill in the blank spot!
✅ Yep, something like that for sure!
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😄😄😄...its your style and choice of words here for me, i love it cause it sounds care free, like who gives a f*k what i do anyways....
We kinda would run on the same page here, you see i have a bunch of other fuckenthings i really would want to do cause they make me fulfilled and happy, but however i love my job and i'm passionate about it too, i feel fulfilled doing it with legit people too and get paid incredibily well,
Then again since i'm passionate about my job and i really love doing it, and still want to do #anyfuckenthing too which i'm also passionate about, it becomes a matter of priority and setting them right accordingly, cause i can quit my job now and stay home and do other fuckenthings but the timing isnt right at the moment, i can't just stay home like that, i will feel bored just like your friend said...so its my priority on a scale of preference..
One day the timing might be right for you to leave your job and get more engaged with those passions you have and hopefully that’s not too far away.
Yah...appreciate that....definitely for sure
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