Overcoming the Stigma of Betting

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I Bet a lot and I am not ashamed of it. Most people are pretty Risk Averse and many of them see people who Bet as reckless degenerates. While there are certainly some Problem Gamblers who ARE reckless degenerates – I am not one of them. However, I constantly face the stigma of people who like to paint us all with the same brush and try to ban betting activities, therefore I don’t always talk about my betting with people who have Closed Minds. Even on HIVE where the Crypto investors here have a much higher Risk Tolerance than most people it’s my betting posts that are probably the ones which get the least engagement from followers.


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Not that I am complaining about this because I know the score, but today I wanted to try and overcome some of the stigma around Betting and maybe try to educate people a bit more about what's really going on here. The first point I'd like to make is that I believe there is a big difference between Punting and Gambling. Gambling typically involves pure games of chance and there is ZERO skill involved. Poker Machines, Casino Games (like Roulette or Craps), Lotteries and even picking random Horses at the racetrack because of the horses name or the silk colours of the jockey are common forms of Pure Gambling and with Pure Gambing The House Always Wins in the long run.

However with Punting there is an element of skill and/or knowledge involved in placing Bets because true Punters are always looking for Value. Punting in many ways is just like Risk Management where the only risk is Financial. Punters typically try to find an “Edge” in a Betting (Prediction) Market that might be priced wrong and Punters who are good at doing this make money over the long run….and the Markets become priced more efficiently as a result of their activity in the market. Capitalists call this phenomenon of correcting markets Price Discovery.

Once you view Betting in this way and redefine it as Financial Risk Management it expands the field of what Betting actually IS. For instance, Insurance Companies are basically just glorified Bookmakers. When you insure your house against catching on fire you are basically placing a yearly Bet at odds of maybe 500:1 that your house WILL catch fire. If it doesn’t then you lose your premium (bet) but if your house DOES burn down then you get paid out at x500 your premium. Similarly (maybe even controversially) if you put your money in the bank at 1% interest you are making a Bet of 1:100 that your bank won’t go bankrupt and take your money. If the bank stays solvent you win your 1%, but if it goes broke then you lose your 100%. Investing in the Share Market or for that matter investing in ANYTHING is also a Bet that your investment is going to increase in value instead of decrease. All of these Betting examples I’ve given are forms of Financial Risk Management which carry no stigma.

Nearly everything in life contains some risk that most people discount or completely ignore. Crossing the road, catching a plane, even ordering a dodgy Kebab at 3AM after a big night out – all of these things carry risk and while the risks may be small, people take risks and Gamble (not just with Money) every single day. Many people who get to know me as a Punter think that I take reckless risks with other aspects of my life, but its quite the opposite. I am VERY conservative with non-Financial Risk. As a punter I know that even the 1% chance does happen 1 in 100 times so I can see all those little risks and I’m always looking to hedge those risks out if I can.

So don’t be putting me in that bucket with the Reckless Degenerates because you couldn’t be further from the mark. In many ways the people out there who ignore those little non-Financial Risks which carry disastrous consequences - THEY are the REAL Gamblers and they don't even know it.



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Betting is more of taking a risk and not everyone can do this.

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Everything is indeed a gamble. Recently, in-game betting that has the overwhelming pre-match favorites having their odds increased has caught my eye.

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If you've found an edge there - great. Make a betting plan, execute it dispassionately and record your results to confirm it. Keep in mind the edge needs to be bigger than the commission / spread. Good luck!

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I think betting is a type of risk. I don't even wants to try.

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In some communities (like among the Chinese) betting is part of their culture.

in many ways is just like Risk Management where the only risk is Financial.

In fact, imho we are managing risk every day in all our activities.

Whether we know it or not we are either consciously or unconsiciously managing all kinds of risk either to stay harm-free or to be successful in our endeavours.

Except that some activities like betting requires additional Risk Management skills than what an average person possesses to be successful.

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Yes, betting used to be a big part of Australian culture but recently it's becoming frowned upon as we do have a lot of Problem Gamblers who are being very irresponsible.

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I was once addicted to betting and I must say it wasn't a good thing at all

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Any kind of addiction is bad. Glad to hear that it is in your past now.

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Since I commented on one of your earlier posts asking you about trading in play on Betfair, I've got it working thanks to your suggestion.

Trading while travelling in the UK of course.

And mate, I'm absolutely in love with tennis trading.

Matches and therefore the price action is just so structured.

Makes setups clear and managing risk straight forward.

I'm not quite at the point where I'm confident enough to start trading with larger stakes, but I've been hitting matches pretty much every day and am getting very consistent.

Thank you!

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Nice one! Glad to hear that you got it working for you. Did you give Geeks Toy a try, or just the VPN?

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I couldn't get GT working on my Mac, so tried a different one called 'BetTrader'.

The trial expired, but I did't subscribe.

I actually found it made things more complex than I needed.

Just trading on the normal interface is working fine for now.

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We're all risk takers in life, and sometimes, we're betting more than anything, we just cover it with the idea that what we're doing is better. I've been in betting before, but it seems I didn't have that decent element of luck that one needs often when betting.

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Yes, luck plays a big part in the short term results and it's easy to get discouraged with a run of bad luck.

I often try to explain to people that "You need to put yourself into a position where you can get lucky". A more technical version of that is to find Asymmetric Risk - basically a situation where you might lose a LITTLE, but are a reasonable chance to win a LOT more. Luck will play its part but if you find enough of these setups then you will end up in front in the long run.

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I grew up in a pretty conservative household, so betting was never much of a thing for me until I got older. We weren't even allowed to have playing cards in our house. It was kind of crazy. My dad never invested in any stocks or funds because he felt it was too much like gambling. He feels the same way about crypto. His loss...

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Totally respect people who abstain. It's not for everyone and my own folks are very similar. A lot of the stigma I've faced over the years comes from my own family.

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I can totally relate!

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The insurance industry is nothing but legalized gambling and always has been. Most people like you say aren't aware that everything is a gamble.

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Amen to that! Well said brother.

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Could you do me a favor? I've had a couple missed votes on ssg this week, just wondering if you could check it out, thanks!

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I've had a look and of your last 6 posts Precious voted 5 of them. The Metals Weekend post probably didn't get a vote because you would not have had a gem. You should jump into our SGS Discord and hit me up there. More than happy to work through any issues you're having.

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The metal weekend I'm not worried about, I posted one two days ago on Leo to see if it's working better. Big mistake, still won't pull up pictures... It was titled "Another beautiful silver Peace dollar". That one it seemed to have missed.

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A few of us have been experiencing problems with the Leo front end recently. You haven't missed out since you'd have gotten a fatter vote on your next post, but I'll throw a manual vote on it anyways.

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Thanks for your help, I really appreciate it! I think I'm done with Leo, ever since the change it just doesn't publish anything right. I keep going back hoping for the best, oh well.
!PIMP

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Crypto investing is also betting in most cases.

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I like to bet, I’ve been doing it for decades now. If you do your homework and don’t bet on a whole bunch of games and crazy ass 3,4,5,6 team parlays you can make a living on it.
One of my closest friends has made a living on it for two decades now. He’s by no means filthy rich, but he’s doing better then many for sure.

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Sounds like a good friend to have. Also sounds a bit like me. "Not filthy rich but doing better than many"

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😉😎🤙 Punter (like football?).. I guess u can put me in that group too..

A trades does that, but the discipline is the consistency, not betting the house, all that.. :P

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Ah yes, the term Punter is probably more of an Aussie / UK slang term. It means different things in the US.

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😊😎🤙 it sounds cool.. I like it however it is meant..

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I would like to say here that if a person cannot take risk in his life then he can never be successful nor can he achieve any great success in his life. When a person has faith in himself, then when he does not do such things and learns about it and sees the world doing it in this way, then he will surely succeed in the future.

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