The Auba situation is weird but I guess it is for the best
I'm not going to pretend like I'm not a bit hurt to see the way things are ending with Auba but I hope it is for the best. No one really knows the entire story but we know that it has something to do with a recurrent mistake that the Gabonese forward made.
The media have tried to paint Arteta as an unforgiving manager but that surely can't be the case. Granit, for example, has consistently let the team down on the pitch but he wasn't kicked to the side.
From what I can deduce from Arteta, the most important thing is that you put in a shift on the field. For all of Xhaka's errors, we can't deny that the man plays with his heart on his sleeves.
In recent times, Auba has seemed really off the pace and to make matters worse, he's not scoring. He also hasn't been using that blistering pace and positioning that we've all come to appreciate him for.
Unlike Lacazette that could miss a glut of chances but still contributes in other ways to the team, Auba wasn't doing that either. His hold up play had been abysmal and he didn't link up with the other forwards.
Off the field, he definitely has had run-ins with the manager on a couple of events. In fact, fresh after the travel incident that Auba was punished for, the Gabonese forward posted a photo with the tag "Familyfirst".
Point of no return
The last time I checked, the Gabonese forward was being hawked to a couple of clubs in Europe. The only way we can actually replace him is if we bring in someone else of top quality because available options in the team are not quite good enough.
From the moment Arteta was given the role, he outrightly stated that he doesn't take any prisoners. In one of his earliest speeches, he said that anybody that isn't down with the plan will hit the door.
Auba is yet another player to hit the door in Arteta's clean out of the team and frankly speaking, we've actually looked like a better team since the Gabonese strikers stopped playing.
In Auba's absence, we pushed up from the relegation zone and into contention for the European places.
It is weird but it makes sense
Many people look at the situation and claim that Arteta isn't treating the player right. Others believe that Auba is the best striker in the team, so he should have a pass to fuck up.
When you think about it though, it's nothing personal and just business. When we eventually get back to winning ways and start challenging for the title, all will be forgiven.
It was pretty much the same thing with Pep when he took over Manchester City and had to clear out the ageing squad. He "fell out" with people like Yaya Toure and even did the unthinkable by dropping Aguero.
Sometimes, it is not about how good an individual is but more about how the individual fits into the plan of the manager.
I believe that if the manager has deemed Auba to be someone that's not part of his plan, and Auba isn't trying to fit into the plan, we might as well let him go. It sucks to see it but we have to prioritise the success of the team over a single player.
I hope we get a favourable resolution to the problem. It will suck to have a sulking high earning individual sitting on the sidelines.
There are only a few hours left in the transfer window, hopefully, there will be some moves. We've been tight-lipped about our transfers so far, so maybe they're cooking up a madness or maybe they aren't. Until we meet again, up the Arsenal.
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I've seen good players who ended up messing up their career because of their nonchalant attitude towards the overall effort of the team and I see Auba topping that list soon if he fails to work on himself.
It's one thing to have the ball and balloon it. It's another thing to not have the ball and still be contributing in defensive plays. This is the difference between Firmino and many other forwards.
A player, especially someone like Auba, cannot be the one calling the shots in a top 6 club in England. It won't happen.
I would like to watch him play, but he gats fix himself up
Hi,I don't even think you know the full story here. I'm sorry Auba may never top the list you are talking about.
Hi @arsenal4life you talked about a Pep, but Arteta is not Pep. Pep is way ahead of him,when we talk of coaching expertise. So he can do certain things and unearth alternatives. Arteta is no where near an Allegri that can afford to do with Ronaldo.
As for Arteta, you can't be quarrelling with everything– with Auba, Torreira is not good, Ghuendozi is annoying you, Saliba is too young,Mavropanos is whatever. Now see how many players were eager to go this January and indeed they are gone. Something is wrong with his man management somewhere.
Okay then, let's agree with his judgements. Alright Arteta sign somebody, he won't.
Ofcourse Kroenke doesn't want to sign in January, just incase some of you don't know the real truth,but that is why you should be circumspect in your dealings with players. You knew the kind of boss you had, ever before you signed as manager.
Am I approving indiscipline? Oh no. You see, Lukaku did by far more than what Auba did but the coach approached him and it's all done with. That's a Tuchel who will be more ruthless years back. Arteta seems to be obsessed with falling out with players who have a little chip on their shoulders, yet he is not yet at the class of top coaches who can afford to do this.
Ah, if he was the coach of PSG by now he would have sold off Neymar,Verrati,almost the whole team because there are real egos there.
Well I'm happy some good news is coming in concerning Auba. I think that is better than staying under this Arteta.
Please see my post in some few minutes.
Regards
While I was reading the first few paragraph of your comment, I was just thinking of Lukaku and how his issue was resolved in Chelsea until I came across where you mentioned it.
Yeah, Arteta's style is not working in the aspect of team management. We've seen it with other coaches and once something like that gets into the dressing room, it often cause a lot of problems for many teams.
On the part of getting players in, it's not always about the coach himself. It is about the whole team and the performance or chances of winning something. You saw how Tottenham missed out on their two potential signing. And they also lost Dele Ali to Everton.
There can be two ways to these, or even more. The transfer window will soon be closed. Many fans are not happy with their club's performance. When that same club fails to bring in fresh legs, it will be too much of a problem for all stakeholders.
Seriously, I'm not an Arsenal fan, but I want to see Auba play. I actually rooted for him when he came into Prems. Hehe.
Haha... I know so much about the whole thing.
BTW, Arsenal really need fresh legs in midfield especially Defensive midfield position.
I wonder if they will pull off some last minute signing.
Tottenham didn't "loose" Dele please. Let's not conjure up what does not exist. Conte doesn't want Dele. Simple! It is not a loss. Conte doesn't want Ndombele too and he has gone. Simple.
Tottenham signed two very good players from a big club called Juventus. Infact one of the players, Kulusevski, was Arsenal’s interest this January.
My new post is live now, thanks for accepting my invite.
Cheers man
Lol... Conte is Conte. We all know what the lad brings to the table so, it's a loss for Tottenham. Maybe not to Conte, but I can't say that many Tottenham fans are happy about it.
For what price?
They got peanuts from the deal.
I wish him well though. I'm happy that he is still in Prems. That's more like it. Those English players are very attached to their league 😂
Of course... I will check it ✌️
Greetings mate, you made some fine points and I mentioned Pep as well to highlight the point I was trying to make and not to compare Arteta to Pep.
I believe that the problem with Auba isn't just a discipline issue but it is also a football thing. If you've seen us play after the Auba situation, you'll notice how much improved we look as an outfit.
Many people talk about the Fa Cup he won at the start of his career but we weren't even good back then.
Describing the situation as a fallout between Arteta and all those players isn't true. It is more of the manager having a system and wanting to work with ONLY people that want to work with him.
I highlighted the Yaya Toure and Aguero situation at city to point out that while some players are good players in their own right, the manager doesn't have to use them, if they don't fit in or try to fit into his plan.
Look at Guendouzi for example, we know he's a good midfielder but if he doesn't do what the manager wants, he won't feature, it is that simple. Another example is Sterling at Manchester City; sometimes you'll see City bossing a match but Pep being pissed off at Sterling and yelling at him because he expects more.
I don't know the entire story but I do know that while I'd like Auba to remain from a fan point of view, we have to look at the team as a whole and call it as it is. We've been much better since Auba was dropped.
You mentioned Lukaku's disciplinary issue. I mentioned that Xhaka has had many red cards but still features because he puts in a shift. Lukaku is the same thing. He made a mistake, he apologised but I guess he also does what the manager wants, rather than do his own thing.
All the top managers have these moments and I know Arteta is still a starter, but he's managing a top club and so, he has no choice but to play the part and be a top manager from the start.
Nice seeing your reply.
I am sure you heard me mention Allegri too. That should tell you that,I do have respect for things like team chemistry— he let Cristiano go because of the bigger picture not because Cristiano is a poor player.
I have stated clearly that it takes top coaches to do that,Arteta is not there yet and it is shameful for him to act like it,just because he is coaching a top club. This is even a top club that had started declining under Wenger's last days,so let's not pretend as if we don't know what the term "top club" means in Arsenal's context.
Zidane was a new comer or even Guardiola at Barca, but they were genuine world class coaches, they were not acting it. It's either you own it or don't, never act it,instead be humble enough to admit you are not there yet and submit to the learning process. I hope ego does not derail Arteta's coaching career.
Pep was ruthless with Ronaldinho, Deco,Toure et al because he had the requisite know-how to do that and get away with it plus the club hierarchy backed him. Zidane too made some harsh choices and still got away with it,plus the club hierarchy backed him.
You are talking about a few matches after Auba was ostracised. Are you looking at the big picture? Are you? Do you truly care about my dear Gunners?
This January, Liverpool bought players, City signed,Chelsea did, Tottenham did, United can be excused because it's a new coach and by the way they have health bunch of players. These teams that bought,did so because they have been playing poorly right? That's why I wonder if you are thinking long term as a big club supporter should be doing? Can't we see that a whole half a season lies ahead?
If Auba does not fit into your system, you are not the first coach to have a system. Pep replaced Deco,Ronaldinho at Barca, Allegri replaced Ronaldo,Zidane replaced Isco,Marcelo; and the list goes on.
By the way it's clearly not a matter of Auba putting in a proper shift, I know how much running,tracking back and so on that he does. I remember those seemingly endless days of torture(I call it) playing as a winger on the left(an inverted winger) doing so much running until he couldn't even score simple goals again.
In my first note here,my point is get an adequate replacement and don't tell me that your boss(Kroenke) is stubborn,we all(including Arteta) knew this stubbornness long before Arteta's reign. Kroenke is no tenable excuse. Did you see how Zidane walked out on Real after his first stint because of a disagreement with the club hierarchy on signing. That's how to do it. Arteta has no excuse whatsoever, he already knew the club hierarchy.
There is no need painting a picture of bliss and playing blind eyes to the Liverpool and Burnley matches. No need to also blame the AFCON because it also hit Liverpool(first team players even). You don't need a prophet to see that the squad is light in key areas and it's a second half of the season that assuredly will be very fiery, way way tougher than the first.
Please everyone expect my post titled—
ARSENAL ARTETA ATTRITION — in at most, an hours time.
Thanks
Greetings again, the arsenal account is my alt. Replying with this account.
Don't get me wrong, I miss Auba and I hoped the situation will be resolved but it wasn't. Remember when Lukaku messed up, he came back, apologised and worked hard to get back into the team.
I don't know what happened in the background but I know that there wasn't any public apology from Auba. I'm also not saying a single crime warrants being sold but you have to understand that from a business point of view, it makes no sense that the highest paid striker in the league doesn't score goals.
As if last season wasn't crappy, he started this season playing some really terrible football. He puts in a shift but he doesn't contribute positively to the team.
Put yourself in the position of a manager and consider your most expensive player, and captain not delivering and instead of sorting it out and improving, he's having misdemeanors, coming late for training and not being a leader.
In football, there's a very thin line between relevance and liability. Once you cross the line as a player, people will try to cut their losses.
The only issue I have with the Auba situation is that we didn't sell him when we had the chance. We could have gotten serious money from his sale and reinvested it on a younger and hungrier striker.
When you think about all the players that have been phased out of Arsenal, you'll notice that they weren't doing exactly well under Arteta.
Actually, we finished 8th last season, so it's is safe to say that the entire squad didn't do well right now. This isn't the time to be pussyfooting a out decisions. I'd be glad if the entire squad is remodeled.
We only have 17 games left this season and a squad that can handle it. Our strikers have been shit this season and that includes Auba. All we did is sell a very expensive striker that's not scoring goals under Arteta.
Finally, I think Arteta has the backing of the hierarchy. We identify targets and go for them, sometimes we get the man and other times, we don't.
Oh ok,still you.
My regards.
I don't know why you are making it all about Auba and even unnecessarily pleading that you are not despising him. I'm still at a loss as to where you got all these from.
I have spoken enough about Auba here and he remains the most valuable striker in the EPL in the last 4 years– meaning his goals have won more points for his team than any other striker. Here:
Please on Lukaku,the apology was after the coach approached him. There is what is called "manner of approach" in all of life.
Anyways,stop behaving as if you aren't seeing that I have since advanced beyond this point. Well let me bring it to your face— "Okay then, let's agree with his judgements. Alright Arteta sign somebody, he won't."
"If Auba does not fit into your system, you are not the first coach to have a system. Pep replaced Deco,Ronaldinho at Barca, Allegri replaced Ronaldo,Zidane replaced Isco,Marcelo; and the list goes on."
"In my first note here,my point is get an adequate replacement.."
I'm sure you get the point now.
Arteta knew the hierarchy very well, long before he became coach,he knew why Ivan Gazidis left for Milan and doing so well there as CEO,so I expect him to enjoy the partnership with the hierarchy. Interesting how my new post given below answers virtually all you've written here and urm in that post I had to use some of your words in this discourse.
Finally when you say it's ONLY 17 matches left,ONLY 17,then you remind me of a certain secret agenda I referred to in the last paragraphs of this my recent post(https://peakd.com/hive-101690/@ogeewitty/arsenal-arteta-attrition), an agenda that a lot of Arsenal fans don't even know. Please check it out.
But I'm lost for words to hear a top club supporter say a phrase like, ONLY 17 games left.
I'm out.
Cheers man
Greetings again mate, nice graphics you got there. It highlights how important Auba was and you're right, he should have been replaced. I believe that is the biggest mistake the club made.
We spent a long time twerking for vlahovic, only to be played at the end of the day. That leaves a nasty taste in my mouth.
At the same time though, I'm kind of satisfied with the fact that we didn't make any hasty signing. The other strikers we were linked to was Alexander Isak and Com ic Calvert Lewin, who I must add, aren't top quality. Neither of them is an upgrade to Lacazette, so no need to spend big money on them.
I think the only error here is that there isn't a replacement for Auba. Besides that, I believe we'll be fine for the rest of the season.
Anyway, only time will tell. After our next match against Wolves, we'll be able to get a general idea about where the team is going.
Hello sir,
Yeah, the graphic is directly rooted from that my post(Arsenal Arteta Attrition). The Vlahovic issue, I touched on that there too. I think what we see in the open is not the reality.
You would see the comment made on this my new post. By the way the person is a top writer in Hive, I respect. He points out that Arsenal are the highest net spenders this year(I think he meant this season). Mr Kroenke knows that too and knows exactly what he is doing. There is something hidden reality.
You rightly said it, we don't really know the full story and for Arteta to act that way even with the press conferences he held which I watched, he looked like he couldn't help it. I love how you carefully examined both parts and I think it's best he leaves so everything can be dead for now. I know Auba isn't talking because he is contracted to Arsenal. Maybe we would know the whole story when he leaves.
I think he is close to signing for Barcelona